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		<title>By: used cars Sacramento</title>
		<link>http://www.esa.org/esablog/ecologist-2/speaking-of-species-and-their-origins/comment-page-1/#comment-35927</link>
		<dc:creator>used cars Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I think the paper is misguiding the conservationists should assess the species as a whole but not to differentiate them as native species and non-native species. I think there should be more scientific data on this topic rather than just arguing about it. In point of view any kind of evaluation caused by nature is not unusual and the species will get used to it as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think the paper is misguiding the conservationists should assess the species as a whole but not to differentiate them as native species and non-native species. I think there should be more scientific data on this topic rather than just arguing about it. In point of view any kind of evaluation caused by nature is not unusual and the species will get used to it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Shrubs Bred for Sparse Seeds Still Spread &#124; EcoTone</title>
		<link>http://www.esa.org/esablog/ecologist-2/speaking-of-species-and-their-origins/comment-page-1/#comment-35590</link>
		<dc:creator>Shrubs Bred for Sparse Seeds Still Spread &#124; EcoTone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on the potential harm or even value of non-native species. This issue was highlighted in a June 10 EcoTone post describing a controversial Nature essay in which the authors argued that species should be [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the potential harm or even value of non-native species. This issue was highlighted in a June 10 EcoTone post describing a controversial Nature essay in which the authors argued that species should be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dov Henis</title>
		<link>http://www.esa.org/esablog/ecologist-2/speaking-of-species-and-their-origins/comment-page-1/#comment-33801</link>
		<dc:creator>Dov Henis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 03:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“how species come to be…”
http://www.sciencenews.org/index/feature/activity/view/id/331382/title/Evolution%E2%80%99s_Wedges


What drives “species come to be” is what drives all life/organisms to come to be,  i.e.  a proven successful route, circumstantially evolved culture, that enhanced the RNAs’ constrained energy by the culturally enhanced  RNAs’ proliferation, followed with accordingly alternatively spliced expression.

This is evolution, i.e. enhanced constrained energy to delay-postpone the universal conversion of mass-formats to energy, to the energy that keeps fueling the expansion of the universe. This expansion will be overcome by gravity upon depletion of the universe’s massfuel, and will be followed by empansion for accelerating reverting of energy to mass all the way back to singularity. The universe is an allmass allenergy poles affair. 

Dov Henis
(comments from 22nd century)

PS: 
- It&#039;s culture that modifies genetics, that changes gene&#039;s expression.  NOT vice versa.
- Epigenetics YOK. Alternative splicing is epiDNAtic, not epigenetic.
- ALL life is RNAs evolution products. RNAs are Earth&#039;s prime organism.

DH]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“how species come to be…”<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/index/feature/activity/view/id/331382/title/Evolution%E2%80%99s_Wedges" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencenews.org/index/feature/activity/view/id/331382/title/Evolution%E2%80%99s_Wedges</a></p>
<p>What drives “species come to be” is what drives all life/organisms to come to be,  i.e.  a proven successful route, circumstantially evolved culture, that enhanced the RNAs’ constrained energy by the culturally enhanced  RNAs’ proliferation, followed with accordingly alternatively spliced expression.</p>
<p>This is evolution, i.e. enhanced constrained energy to delay-postpone the universal conversion of mass-formats to energy, to the energy that keeps fueling the expansion of the universe. This expansion will be overcome by gravity upon depletion of the universe’s massfuel, and will be followed by empansion for accelerating reverting of energy to mass all the way back to singularity. The universe is an allmass allenergy poles affair. </p>
<p>Dov Henis<br />
(comments from 22nd century)</p>
<p>PS:<br />
- It&#8217;s culture that modifies genetics, that changes gene&#8217;s expression.  NOT vice versa.<br />
- Epigenetics YOK. Alternative splicing is epiDNAtic, not epigenetic.<br />
- ALL life is RNAs evolution products. RNAs are Earth&#8217;s prime organism.</p>
<p>DH</p>
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		<title>By: Invasive Species Paradigm Shift Underway &#124; Renewing the Commons</title>
		<link>http://www.esa.org/esablog/ecologist-2/speaking-of-species-and-their-origins/comment-page-1/#comment-33704</link>
		<dc:creator>Invasive Species Paradigm Shift Underway &#124; Renewing the Commons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The article is receiving a fair bit of criticism from within the academic world, such as this from restoration ecologist Nate Hough-Snee.  More conversation at the Ecological Society of America here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The article is receiving a fair bit of criticism from within the academic world, such as this from restoration ecologist Nate Hough-Snee.  More conversation at the Ecological Society of America here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Hohn</title>
		<link>http://www.esa.org/esablog/ecologist-2/speaking-of-species-and-their-origins/comment-page-1/#comment-33686</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Hohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure what the point of this article is.  Obviously any &#039;judgement&#039; of any species is anthropomorphic, values-based, and not science.  This is nothing new... all management or conservation of any sort is based on values.

The most valid point I see here is that non native does not necessarily equal invasive.  The vast majority of introduced species do not become invasive... and some native species DO, especially when people change the conditions in an ecosystem.  I think it is a good idea to get away from using &#039;non-native&#039; as a qualifier, and instead look at species based on how they act in an ecosystem.

But... I fear most will read this article as an advocation of not managing invasive species.  I see this as being harmful to conservation in the long run.  While methods of management (ie: whether or not to use herbicide) are valid subjects of debate, there is a vast body of good science that indicates that invasive species lead to dramatic loss of biodiversity and ecosystem function.  While ethically labeling loss of ecosystem function as &#039;bad&#039; may be difficult for some to swallow, it is in our best interest to manage for diverse and stable ecosystems when we can, and to do damage control if we can&#039;t.  The phenomena of invasiveness in ecosystems is poorly understood, and hopefully future science will give us a better idea for how this works.  In the meanwhile, we can only do what we can to reduce the harm we do while we try to we understand the implications of it. 

Also, there is a pretty solid element of hypocrisy here to condemn &#039;ethical labeling&#039; of species and then call tamarisk a &#039;boom&#039;.  It&#039;s an odd statement to make anyway, since the plant seems to have more negative impacts to ecosystems and humans than positive ones (though it is a valid point that it may be proliferating mainly due to alterations of the natural hydrological regime via dams, etc).  In any event, some species will certainly benefit from the spread of tamarisk.  For that matter, coyotes and raccoons benefit from suburbanization, and many heat-tolerant species may benefit from climate change.  I&#039;m still quite OK with saying that climate change and urban sprawl are detrimental to ecosystem function and biodiversity.

Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the point of this article is.  Obviously any &#8216;judgement&#8217; of any species is anthropomorphic, values-based, and not science.  This is nothing new&#8230; all management or conservation of any sort is based on values.</p>
<p>The most valid point I see here is that non native does not necessarily equal invasive.  The vast majority of introduced species do not become invasive&#8230; and some native species DO, especially when people change the conditions in an ecosystem.  I think it is a good idea to get away from using &#8216;non-native&#8217; as a qualifier, and instead look at species based on how they act in an ecosystem.</p>
<p>But&#8230; I fear most will read this article as an advocation of not managing invasive species.  I see this as being harmful to conservation in the long run.  While methods of management (ie: whether or not to use herbicide) are valid subjects of debate, there is a vast body of good science that indicates that invasive species lead to dramatic loss of biodiversity and ecosystem function.  While ethically labeling loss of ecosystem function as &#8216;bad&#8217; may be difficult for some to swallow, it is in our best interest to manage for diverse and stable ecosystems when we can, and to do damage control if we can&#8217;t.  The phenomena of invasiveness in ecosystems is poorly understood, and hopefully future science will give us a better idea for how this works.  In the meanwhile, we can only do what we can to reduce the harm we do while we try to we understand the implications of it. </p>
<p>Also, there is a pretty solid element of hypocrisy here to condemn &#8216;ethical labeling&#8217; of species and then call tamarisk a &#8216;boom&#8217;.  It&#8217;s an odd statement to make anyway, since the plant seems to have more negative impacts to ecosystems and humans than positive ones (though it is a valid point that it may be proliferating mainly due to alterations of the natural hydrological regime via dams, etc).  In any event, some species will certainly benefit from the spread of tamarisk.  For that matter, coyotes and raccoons benefit from suburbanization, and many heat-tolerant species may benefit from climate change.  I&#8217;m still quite OK with saying that climate change and urban sprawl are detrimental to ecosystem function and biodiversity.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.esa.org/esablog/ecologist-2/speaking-of-species-and-their-origins/comment-page-1/#comment-33660</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a misguided essay. As noted as some of the authors are, to claim that the push to save native biodiversity is some kind of bias (akin to racism?), is a serious mis-interpretation of conservation biology. We are losing some species, and the reason is anthropogenic. Species we have assisted to proliferate at the expense of species we have assisted to go extinct are managed to minimize human influence on the environment. We had might as well embrace a human-dominated future and forget about rare species unable to cope with those new conditions, if we were to follow their line of logic. Yes, invasion is just another aspect of evolution. But using the Davis et al. argument, one could have also claimed that slavery was just another aspect of intraspecific competition, or some equally abhorrent social Darwinism. At some point, well-meaning people step in and do what&#039;s right. Yes, that&#039;s a value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a misguided essay. As noted as some of the authors are, to claim that the push to save native biodiversity is some kind of bias (akin to racism?), is a serious mis-interpretation of conservation biology. We are losing some species, and the reason is anthropogenic. Species we have assisted to proliferate at the expense of species we have assisted to go extinct are managed to minimize human influence on the environment. We had might as well embrace a human-dominated future and forget about rare species unable to cope with those new conditions, if we were to follow their line of logic. Yes, invasion is just another aspect of evolution. But using the Davis et al. argument, one could have also claimed that slavery was just another aspect of intraspecific competition, or some equally abhorrent social Darwinism. At some point, well-meaning people step in and do what&#8217;s right. Yes, that&#8217;s a value.</p>
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